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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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03-28-2016, 02:27 PM
zuludelta
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Sorry, just catching up with the thread over the last few weeks, can I go back to the medics for a second please?
I just want to get it straight in my head and please let me know if I'm wrong, barking up the wrong tree, etc.
In terms of SOF Medics in the US, there are;
...
Does that sound right to you guys?
The SOCM course is basically the baseline component of the SOF medic's training. Depending on the unit/service, it can be taken as a standalone training component, or as the first component within a longer training pipeline.
Here's what I know, as far as the SOCM course's place within the larger Special Forces Medical Sergeant's training pipeline:
SFQC Phase I–III (38–45 weeks)
- start MOS 18D-specific qualification training (SFQC Phase IV) -
Special Operations Combat Medic Course (36 weeks)
Follow-on training, phase I (6 weeks)
Follow-on training, phase II; includes laboratory medicine and veterinary medicine classes and 240 clinical hours in Ob-Gyn, dermatology, orthopedics, community health, etc. (6 weeks)
Further MOS 18D-specific training (16 weeks)
- end MOS 18D-specific qualification training (SFQC Phase IV) -
"Robin Sage" (SFQC Phase V, 4 weeks)
SFQC Phase VI, 1 week
For comparison's sake, here's how the SOCM course figures in the Special Operations Civil Affairs Medical Sergeant training pipeline (SOCAMs are previously qualified healthcare specialists):
Special Operations Combat Medic Course (36 weeks)
Special Operations Civil Affairs Medical Sergeant Course, includes classes in veterinary medicine, food and water sanitation, basic agriculture, laboratory medicine, rodent/arthropod-borne disease control (7 weeks)
Civil Affairs Qualification Course (42 weeks)
In the case of Navy corpsmen, a rated Hospital Corpsman takes the SOCM course prior to serving with Force Recon, thus earning the 8427 NEC (Fleet Marine Force Reconnaissance/Special Operations Corpsman). Later in his career, that same corpsman can take the Special Operations Independent Duty Corpsman (SOIDC) course to earn the 8403 NEC (Fleet Marine Force Reconnaissance/Special Operations Independent Duty Corpsman). The SOIDC training is in certain ways sort of the Navy equivalent of the post-SOCM follow-on training/MOS 18D-specific training for Special Forces Medical Sergeants (the SOIDC course runs for 24 weeks overall and includes classes in lab medicine, veterinary medicine, "guerrilla hospital" administration, clinical hours in ob-gyn, orthopedics, etc.).
Here's how the SOCM course fits in the special operations independent duty corpsman pipeline:
Navy Hospital Corpsman "A" School (18 weeks)
Field Medical Training (8 weeks, awards NEC 8404, Field Medical Service Technician, allowing a Hospital Corpsman to serve with USMC field units)
Marine Basic Reconnaissance Course (12 weeks, qualifies the corpsman in amphibious reconnaissance and call-for-fire skills, among others)
Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE) training (3 weeks)
USMC Combatant Diver Course (8 weeks)
Army Basic Airborne Course (3 weeks)
Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Diving Medicine Course (3 weeks)
Special Operations Combat Medic Course (36 weeks, awards NEC 8427, Fleet Marine Force Reconnaissance/Special Operations Corpsman)
Special Operations Independent Duty Corpsman Course (24 weeks, awards NEC 8403, Fleet Marine Force Reconnaissance/Special Operations Independent Duty Corpsman)
SEAL medics can also take the SOIDC course anytime after they take the Special Forces Combat Diving Medical Technician course and the SOCM course (SEALs who take the SOCM are awarded NEC 5392, Naval Special Warfare Special Operations Combat Medic). I don't think they are awarded the 8403 NEC after they complete the SOIDC course, as I think that NEC is specific to the Hospital Corpsman rating, though I could be wrong about that.
The Ranger medics have their own post-SOCM training, but from what I understand, it occurs at the Regiment or battalion level, and I don't have a lot of reliable public info about that.
160th SOAR medic post-SOCM training is called the Special Operations Aviation Medical Indoctrination Course, which emphasizes CASEVAC and in-flight resuscitation/trauma care over 51 hours of lectures and 29 hours of hands-on/clinical training (note that this is different from the standard Flight Medic Course and is taught in addition to the 160th SOAR medic's Combat Trauma Management training).
Air Force Pararescue have their own special operations combat medicine course (they don't go to the SOCM course, although I suppose nothing is stopping a pararescueman from applying for a slot in a class if they want it), and from what I've read, they're trained with a greater emphasis on resuscitation/trauma care during in-extremis patient transfers and such. They're supposed to be the best in the "blood and guts" aspect of battlefield casualty care if you believe the peripheral chatter.
There are other elite SOF medic units out there, too, but they don't get a lot of press because they're not as "sexy." There are the Special Operations Resuscitation Teams from the 528th SOSB(A), for example, and they have their own specialized post-SOCM training pipeline. What makes the SORTs unique is that they are actually led by a medical doctor who occasionally deploys/patrols with the SOCMs. The SORTs may also have nurses and other health professions as necessary. Put simply, the SORT is a forward-deployed Field Surgical Team staffed by SOCM-qualified healthcare specialists and airborne-qualified doctors and nurses.
All SOF medics have to maintain their ATP (Advanced Tactical Practitioner) qualifications by taking regular refresher courses and additional classes throughout their medic careers, though, just like a civilian emergency health worker/paramedic.
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