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04-13-2015, 09:32 PM
oliverbox
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Recent reflections on Flint's beret...
SO, those of you who have been with this thread for a long time will obviously remember our long, lengthy, and frequent discussions (and frustrations) with the beret colors of G.I. Joe.
For me, Stalker's green beret and Flint's black beret are the most frustrating, probably because they are both two of my favorite characters, and they were the first Joes with berets.
It also just seems like such a simple detail to get wrong... why not just get it right?
So, I watch a few different YouTube channels. Among them is Larry Vicker's channel where he reviews guns and tactical gear. Larry is a retired U.S. Army Master Sergeant, and he spent 15 years in Delta Force; he served in the late 80's-the 90-'s. In a recent video, we saw some pictures from his career, including a few in his Class-A's from his time in Delta. Larry came to Delta from Special Forces. He's a qualified Green Beret; his SF tab is visible in many of the photos. What's interesting is his beret: it was black with a red flash.
Now, this threw me for a loop. In every other unit in USASOC, if a soldier is SF-qualified, that soldier is authorized to wear his green beret. If he has an SF Tab, his hat is green. That isn't always the case in the rest of the Army, but in U.S. Army Special Operations Command, that's the way in works. It was that way when I was in, and it was that way when I was growing up. I know because I was an Army brat, and I paid attention and asked alot of questions.
However, I'll fully admit I don't know everything about Delta. It's secretive, and you RARELY see those guys in a regular uniform beyond their BDU's/ACU's, or PT's. I've only ever seen them in PT's as they blew by me, and I only saw about 6 of them. Most of the time they wear civilian clothing with long hair and beards. So seeing the black beret - with the SF Tab - got me thinking. I know that Delta isn't made up of all SF-qualified soldiers. They come from SF, but also the Rangers, and the Airborne Divisions, and elsewhere. It's likely that they wouldn't want the guys with SF-Tabs to be seen as different or more elite than the other guys in the Unit, because they all go through the 6-month Special Operators Course after selection, and they train to the same standard...
So, they probably chose the Black beret with red flash as the standard for every member of the Unit when wearing dress uniform for the sake of unit cohesion, and to match the USASOC shoulder patch, which is red and black. Obviously, the Rangers were wearing black berets at that time, but the flashes (patches on the berets) were very different, and soldiers would have immeadiately understood that the Delta berets were NOT Ranger berets. Soldiers read beret flashes the same way that they read shoulder patches... it's just the language they speak.
Bottomline: I'm asserting that Flint was not just SF-qualified, but that he came to the Joe Team from Delta Force. I think this makes sense for several other reasons, if anyone is interested in discussing that, but mainly I think it is the best explanation for the "flight school" issue/question that consistantly comes up. Delta sends their guys to learn to fly (small stuff) all the time.
Anyway, that's my assertion. Flint's from Delta. He's a D-Boy. Responses? Comments? Thoughts? Arguments?
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