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: Lines/Colors/3D
The GI Joe/Cobra Concept Art & Filecard Project
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08-27-2011, 12:15 PM
zuludelta
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Lifeline 71
One thing I noticed though-you have Hawk listed as a Brigadier Gen. in '88 and '90, but in the last 2 he's a Col. again. Otherwide, it's great stuff. I love the insignia, too.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I'll correct it in the final document. I put the "rank ceiling" for Joes at O-6, so Hawk should be a colonel (he starts out in 1982 as a "telephone colonel" and then makes full colonel by 1986). Having a brigadier general leading such a small unit, with seemingly no other brigade-level (or higher) command responsibilities, just seemed too weird to me. For comparison, SEAL Teams and Special Forces battalions (both much larger than the Joe team) are typically led by an O-5.
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Tyroc
Slowly digesting the Orbats. Love them Z. I like the little touches like the footnotes detailing Big Ben's exchange and the little nod to Hit and Run's SAS Action Force service
Glad you noticed that. The SAS/SASR exchanges were motivated less by the appearance of certain characters in the post-Palitoy Action Force toy line and more by "it just makes sense," though. Since Big Ben and Skymate were listed in their filecards as being on exchange from the 22 SAS and the SASR, respectively, I figured the Joe team must have sent two of their own guys to those units to receive exchange training.
I had Alpine (who stopped appearing in the comics in 1986 and whose toy was discontinued in 1987) serve as the "exchange" for Big Ben (Alpine speaks fluent German, according to the comics, and since Big Ben used to teach at the NATO LRRP School in Germany, I thought it made sense) and Recondo serve as the exchange guy for Skymate (because the SASR do a lot of training with the Gurkhas at the British Army Jungle Warfare Training School in Brunei and also because Recondo was the basis for
Digger
, a character unique to the Australian reprints of Action Force and GI Joe who first appeared in the reprints published by Australia's Cyclone Comics company in 1990).
I had Hit & Run serve as the exchange guy for Windchill v2 (whom I assumed to be an SAS guy, since his filecard states that he's from Scotland) primarily just to continue the trend of using military mountaineer types as the SAS exchange people (but it also worked out that a
garishly-recoloured version
of Hit & Run was sold in the UK under the Action Force line between 1991 and 1993).
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