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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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05-09-2011, 03:25 PM
zuludelta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverbox
I'm sure most Joe fans would consider v2 to be the same character. Maybe they're related? Cousins? Brothers?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tanksmasher
I see no reason why you can't make him a relative but you'd have to change the code name of course.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
lardman
Without looking at the filecard I'd have said he's a different person (probably a relative due to the name) who has used his skills in a slightly different theatre, but after looking at the filecard I get the feeling it's the same Ace.
Yeah, I'm beginning to think that the "official" stance (if there ever was one) is that they're supposed to be the same guy. I just checked for "Wendall Armbruster" in Pablo Hidalgo's
GI Joe vs Cobra: The Essential Guide
and he isn't listed, whereas other characters who share the same codename but have different filenames are listed as separate entities. For example, Airborne v1 ("Franklin Talltree") is listed as a different character from Airborne v2 ("Robert Six") and Lifeline v1 ("Edwin Steen") is listed separately from Lifeline v5 ("Greg Scott").
Still, it's not as if
GI Joe vs Cobra: The Essential Guide
is accepted across fandom as a canon or reliable resource (I know I don't), but so far, the circumstantial evidence is that they were likely intended to be the same guy (they did revert to the original "Brad Armbruster" filename and "Providence, Rhode Island" birthplace with subsequent versions of Ace). And
JMM's GI Joe Comic Home Page
doesn't mention a "Wendall Armbruster," in the GI Joe Characters A-Z section either, whilst listing the aforementioned Airbornes and Lifelines as different guys (while an "unofficial" fan project, I'd consider JMM's site as a much more reliable resource than Hidalgo's book, since it actually lists its sources and doesn't conflate the comics and cartoon continuities).
I do think the room is there for them to be interpreted as being two different but likely familially-related guys.
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Originally Posted by
Troynos
No relatives in my Joe team.
Yeah, unless explicitly stated in the filecard or in one of the mainline cartoon or comic book continuities, my default interpretation of Joes with the same surname, even somewhat uncommon surnames like Armbruster (it's ranked 6,205 in terms of popularity according to the US White Pages phone directory), is that they're unrelated and the similarity in surnames is coincidence. Being related to another Joe is significant enough a character feature that I'd expect it to be mentioned somewhere in the filecard or the various ancillary media.
Still, having them as relatives (cousins, brothers) seems like a fairly reasonable assumption to make if one were to distinguish them as separate characters, owing to the uniqueness of the surname.
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