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04-14-2011, 03:43 AM
zuludelta
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Is First Sergeant a [rank, paygrade, slot] that operates in Special Operations. I know Delta and Green Berets dont use that rank, but not sure about 75th Rangers, 4th Psyops, SOAR? If they dont, why would Duke be a FSGT in GI JOE? Since GI JOE 'mythos' is considered Special Operations and not regular army.
First Sergeant is a funny thing in the Army, in that it's both a rank and a billet (a "job"). The first sergeant is normally the senior NCO in a company-sized organization. If that first sergeant is re-assigned to an organization that doesn't have an available first sergeant billet, he/she gets "laterally demoted" to master sergeant (he doesn't take a reduction in pay, though, since first sergeant and master sergeant are both E-8 pay-grades).
Special Forces (a.k.a. "Green Berets") companies don't normally have first sergeants because the most senior NCO in a company-sized SF unit is a sergeant major (an E-9), and he is called the "Company Sergeant Major" instead of "First Sergeant" (although unlike "First Sergeant," this is a billet, not a combination rank-billet that has its own insignia). This is because enlisted SF operators are almost always older than their non-SF SOCOM counterparts (the senior NCO of a Ranger company is an E-8 and is thus a first sergeant). The Company Sergeant Major's administrative responsibilities are roughly the same as the First Sergeant's, though. He holds a higher rank because in the SF Groups, everybody is that much older and experienced and of higher rank, so everybody is "transposed" a level or two below where they would be in a regular infantry organization.
The 75th RR and SOAR companies (which are Special Operations organizations) do have first sergeants as the senior company NCOs. Keep in mind that there's a subtle but important distinction in the Army between Special Operations Forces (SOF) and Special Forces (SF). To wit: all SF organizations are SOF, but not all SOF are SF. So if you think of GI Joe as a company-sized SOF organization, it makes sense that their senior-most NCO is a first sergeant.
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