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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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01-17-2011, 01:41 AM
Loose Cannon
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Originally Posted by
Tanksmasher
It all depends on how you envision the Joes. If you view then as a highly elite but small counter-terrorist unit, then I think the qualifications just to apply should be high and there should be some rigorous selection process.
I, however, like to incorporate various elements, like aviation, artillery and armor, so I've structured my Joe military to resemble a Heavy Brigade Combat Team whose primary purpose is special operations and that functions like a heavy version of the Rangers. Candidates have to pass a selection process similar to RASP, at which point they become Greenshirts. However, Greenshirts are not Joe qualified until they graduate from Joe School and those who do not attend or pass the school cannot advance in the organization. This allows the Joes to have various personnel working in different fields in a much larger military unit. The Joe Regiment has its own Longe-Range Recon element and an attached aviation element dedicated strictly to the Joes and operating much like the 160th SOAR, except it includes a figther/attack jet element for Close Air Support and Recon and a cargo/transport element consisiting of C-130s and C-17s.
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Sgt Humpty
Reading back over my own answer, I don't think I made my point clearly. What I mean is there would be more emphasis on indoctrination to the "Joe way" of doing things, new skills taught, new technology introduced. I don't think there would be the level of sleep deprivation, physical hardship and what some might call "hazing" activities. These people would already have proven themselves in their own services and then in a selection process. I don't see Beachhead having them do push-ups for 2 hours or Gung Ho forcing them to run laps around the motor pool.
Am I just rambling incoherently, or do you guys know what I mean?
I like that set up Tanksmasher. Particularly for the selection process. I need to look into combining the Heavy Combat Brigade with a Marine MEB. (I like the Naval element as well) But I think you're right about the selection process being the key element. Then to become a named Joe they would complete the Joe School? This could be the Covert Ops School mentioned in the 82 filecards. What type of training would that be?
I like Humpty's view that there would be some serious weapons\vehicle training for all the Joe specific equipment. This is where everyone learns how to fly a Skystriker.
OK maybe not that far, but maybe the Armadillo and a FLAK cannon. But I think there wouldn't be the focus on ridiculous amounts of Push-ups. Maybe Beachhead and Gung-Ho would being doing that for the RASP/RIP type selection process or GASP/GIP in this case. But like you mentioned Humpty, being that they are named Joes, they would be expected to keep themselves in top shape.
I think there would be lots of live-fire exercises for practice purposes. Occassionally the various Joe teams would pick up a greenshirt who was a support person and add them to their roster. Kind of like Mayday. Someone like Firewall would just stay Support. I think you would have older Joes move into more leadership/support roles if they are there long enough.
I wish I knew more how Delta Force Training goes. They have some sort of ridiculous selection process that is 60-70% failure rate. I remember in the Kill bin Laden book he briefly mentions the training, but said it was up to the team Sgt Major's to decide what his team got. They are expected to be weapons experts and 90% accurate on a firing range, but most of these guys are such over-achievers they kind of train themselves.
So I figure Duke; Stalker; Rock'n'Roll; Altitude; Gung-Ho; Mercer; Beachhead, and maybe Blizzard or a few other Master Sgts are in charge of their various teams training. These same guys and maybe Slaughter would all be on hand for the Joe Selection process, but guys like Fridge and Slaughter as Drill Instructors would be in charge of the average green shirt training and not the named Joes training.
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