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Official G.I. Joe Command Team Recruiting Thread
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10-19-2010, 11:45 PM
Angry.Android
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Lifeline_MD
To weigh in on the new Toon discussion:
I most certainly don't want it to fail (like some people in other threads have stated), but I'm also not afraid to say that I really don't like the direction they're taking with a lot of things.
Specificaly:
1) animation style - yes, its the "in" design now to have everything anime or anime immitation, but ENOUGH! What ever happened to semi-realistic-looking cartoons???
The sunbow toon was an anime imitation, it was the style of japanese animation at the time. And honestly dude, Sunbow/DiC was as semi-realistic as Renegades appears to be. The only "realistic toon" you are gonna get would be cgi over actual actors, and you might as well just make it Live action then.
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2) Ripcord's continued race change - really? would it really confuse kids that much to have him white? (pet peeve) Ironically, a latino Lady Jaye isn't bugging me just yet. Most likely it will.
For fans who jumped in with the movie, i imagine it would bother them, since ripcord has always been black to them. I like BlackCord much better than WhiteCord, since WhiteCord was boring as crap to me. At least BlackCord has that wayans charm
Wait till you get a load of the Black Firefly for the sequel! Personally, i would have made Duke a chick and let Flint run the show, but that's me..YMMV
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3) Gender changes for any character no matter how minor. If you want more girls, invent more girls. Very simple. They added Icestorm, Shadow Tracker, Sandstorm, Air Raid, Night Adder, and others in/since the movie line. If they want more girls they can create them too, but they don't, so don't go changing existing characters because your too lazy to think up a new name.
Eh, If they would have femmed up someone important, i might feel the nerd rage on this one. But Dial Tone? He could have been turned into a talking rabbit and it wouldn't have bothered me. I thought FemmeTone was spunky and interesting, and at least more personable than DudeTone. Again, YMMV.
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4) The team being split up with Hawk against them, and Duke/Flint being rivals. This just annoys me, it could acutally work, but knowing how this sort of thing is usually done in kids toons, its going to be REALLY annoying.
I will agree the Football rivals thing with Flint/Duke is pretty lame. I am generally against any plot device that tries to link all characters together by some sort of forced backstory. That being said, i like the idea of the two groups working against each other with Cobra pulling the strings. And Hawk being the general chasing them is awesome. I hope they make Gimp!Hawk a total stubborn jerk, fully believing his joes are bad guys. I never did like that abernathy punk.
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5) Tunnel Rat as the medic. WTF!?!?!?!?! The guy who crawls around in sewers holding the bandages? Who thought THAT was a good idea? let alone sanitary? Where's Doc? Stretcher? Sideswipe? Med Alert? Lifeline? ILLOGICAL.
Hmm, don't medics carry that gear in the field anyway...y'know, in the deserts, jungles, and other non-sanitary locales? I would think his gear would be in a sealed bag/container. I would have preferred Tunnel Rat to stay the tunnel diving gear monkey with a mad-on for things that go boom and let some other random Joe be the medic. Or just make one of the others have the medic skills. So, i get your gripe on this one.
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6) SE, I really hope your kidding about Timber being a girl. You are right?
It's a dog, and i for one respect it's privacy enough not to check under the hood
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7) Bio. Vipers. Nuff. Said.
Yeah, they are pretty awesome, aren't they?
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8) the near certainty that joe will now look like Clone Wars figures. (On the bright side, I save money)
Cool then, this will definitely work out! You will save money, and if i need a fig that i can't snatch up locally, maybe your area will have it
Tankers helping Tankers, right?
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9) the increased difficulty getting classic characters because of - unmatched toy design, race/gender/code name/other illogical changes
And i think this here is the crux of most of the toon hate lately for alot of collectors. I personally think that if Renegades does well, and can power the line some more, it may create enough success that we might get 2 lines down the road...the primary line, and a realistic line, with room for all the old retreads so many joe fans are clamoring for! Basically, the Joe brand needs the shot in the arm this toon has the potential to be. It needs new, kiddie blood to rejuvenate it, because the average adult collector is a fickle beast. We all scream for this or that, and then let it languish because "his camo isn't 80s accurate" or some other rubbish. Or we wait to pick it up on clearance, showing Big H with our dollars that Joe isn't viable, isn't appreciated, isn't profitable. And eventually that will mean Joe goes away.
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I'm happy to see a joe toon back on the air, but it could have been SO much better executed.
So am i, and personally, i like where this is going.
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jaybeane
You don't KNOW that though. We've seen pre-pro images, small snippets of animation and generic website bios. All of which was probably chosen by people with dollar signs for eyes and not the creative minds behind it.
And as for the changes, so what? How does a new cartoon affect your feeling or memories of the old one? Are they going to go back and change the old cartoon to reflect what's going on in the new one? The only thing linking them is the name. If they wanted, they could start from scratch. But people would bitch like cuh-razy!
People are calling the game before it's even been played, is all.
And Timber as a girl makes sense to me. I think !SE! is BS-ing us about the bows but all of the female dogs I've had have been loyal beyond belief to me. I once had a cocker spaniel that fought off a german shepherd that was coming after me.
Well said JayB
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And now i'm jealous....here i thought I was your best friend.. :(
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