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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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05-20-2010, 12:26 AM
Loose Cannon
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Well SE was definitely SOG so that's why I consider him a Green Beret, but Stalker is uncertain. They run recon together but perhaps SE just joins up with a LRP unit, which in reality would have been odd, I suppose, but in my joeverse Stalker is a Green Beret.
I don't have any comics with me to go back and look through. And htmlcomics doesn't seem to be up any more. Yeah but SOG is SOG. What Other Army units work as part of SOG besides SF? There is also some instances of other units being tasked to work with SOG.
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Well if we look at the original card art for Stalker--assuming this was what the designer/artist intended, even though the actual figure has a solid green beret as does the comic character--you'll notice that Stalker is actually wearing a tiger-striped beret, which WAS worn by LRPs. So the green beret, I believe, was just an accident or mistake on the manufacturer's part and the comic just imitated the look of the actual figure. This is a reasonable explanation, I think.
That's what I believe happened. I think even the prototype figures had him with the camo beret.
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I have some sources of Green Berets working in LRP units. In fact there's a decent book calling Going Native where a SF medic gets transferred to another unit b/c he didn't have the experience and confidence he needed to perform with his SF unit, and so he ended up working with LRPs before returning to his old SF unit.
Right this is my only problem with Stalker being SF in Vietnam. SF guys didn't usually work with LRP units. They did plenty of deep recon missons, but they were SF and they did lots of other things.
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The Green Berets didn't typically train LRPs. The bulk of them were trained OTJ in Vietnam with their unit. SF ran the Recondo School, but not all LRPs got to go there. Only a small percent of them went b/c the school had limited slots and was quite competitive and was open to other units like Marines, SEAL and Korean units. And ones that did go often went after they had already been running LRP missions, so they were already experienced LRPs.
And there was a Ranger School during Vietnam but no Ranger units until '69 as you pointed out.
You're right. I don't know why I put that down. There was the 8 week Ranger School, just no Rangers yet. There is nothing that says any Joes went to Recondo School in Nha Trang. (Although I wonder about Gung-Ho and Recondo) I wonder what percentage of the SOG operatives went or had to go to Recondo school. Only like 3400 guys graduated from Recondo School.
Hey Tanksmasher I figure you would know about it more than anyone else, went they formed the Ranger units in 69, they folded in the LRRP units? But I guess they just kept the units as independent companies with the units they came out of? Were those newly formed Ranger Units part of SOG then?
I was just reading a book about the Mobile Strike Forces (MIKE) in Vietnam. Mostly just an overview of events, unit structure and actions they participated in.
I was looking for Stalker in a camo beret, when I looked at the old catalog. It's funny originally they were referred to as "Mobile Strike Force Team"
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