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10-16-2009, 05:02 AM
Tyroc
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The chronology regarding GI Joe's creation is problematic. In early issues like 26 and 27 the date of SE's tour of duty is unknown, and Stalker tells Hawk that he remembers seeing the Araskikage symbol "more than 10 years ago" which again sets us in the general time frame of the war. But in issue 94, we get an actual date: Jan 30, 1968. This date puts Hawk's recruitment of the original 13 somewhere around 1975, roughly six years before issue 1, published in the middle of 1982. That means the first 13 Joes were operating for 7 years! Here's how I came up with 1975:
Before the infamous ambush, Tommy and Snake-Eyes had served one year and were starting a second tour. Stalker had been with them for six months at this point. So Storm Shadow and Snake-Eyes had been together for at least six months before Stalker joined them. All three were together on January 31, 1968 during the TET Offensive when the Baroness’s brother was killed (issue 94). But how long had they been together at this point? If they had just met Stalker then the ambush did not occur until six months later near the end of July. Or they had already been together for almost six months and the ambush occurred in the ensuing weeks. DDP Declassified states that Snake-Eyes’ sister died February 26, so the writer assumed the latter to be true, which means she died February 26, 1968, the day Snake-Eyes returned home from Vietnam—permanently or on leave, we don’t know—still dressed in bandages.
This chronology also implies that Snake-Eyes arrived in Vietnam around February 1967, since he had already served a tour with Tommy up until his sister’s death, and therefore enlisted in the Army at least six months prior in order to have completed BCT, AIT, Jump School and his 30-day leave. That puts his enlistment at around August 1966. He could have enlisted at the age of 17 with his parent’s permission, and if so, then he would have been born July 5, 1949 or 1948 at the earliest. However, if the DDP writer’s assumption is false and Stalker just met Snake-Eyes in January of 1968, then Snake-Eyes would have enlisted around January 1967. Either way, he most likely turned 17 or 18 in July of 1966.
Snake-Eyes had about one and a half years in service before getting wounded, so he still had six more months to serve in the Army, in Vietnam or perhaps in the States, depending upon the seriousness of his wounds. Since he had re-upped for another tour, prior to getting wounded, he was probably going to serve out the rest of his time in Vietnam. Regardless of where he finished his service, he would have gotten out of the Army around January 1969, assuming he enlisted in 1967. From here on, he would have been free to visit Japan, where he trained with Tommy’s family for three years. So he would have returned to the States again at the start of 1972, and then built a home in the High Sierras where he lived for three years before Stalker and Hawk recruited him for GI Joe. Hence 1975 marks the advent of Hawk’s command. The Joes would have then trained for the next several months or even years, prior to the helicopter crash that scarred Snake-Eyes’ face and left him mute. He spent the next six months in the hospital. Yet the GI Joe adventures begin with issue 1 in June 1982.
Wow....I'm speechless. You must've put alot of thought into that timeline. Awesome work. I'm really looking forward to your Joes in 'Nam when you're done.
Tyroc
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