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10-11-2009, 01:12 AM
zuludelta
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Realistically martial artists get their asses handed to them in close quarter fighting--not always, but mostly. Ultimate Fighting has demonstrated this. The guys who usually win are the grapplers with striking abilities
I hate to be pedantic about this, but guys in "Ultimate Fighting" are martial artists as well (the sport is called MMA -- Mixed Martial Arts -- "Ultimate Fighting" is just a brand name accorded to the Zuffa, LLC brand of MMA... sort of how the "Major League" brand has become synonymous with the sport of pro baseball). They just fight by a set of rules that allow for the melding of the striking and grappling martial arts (whereas most other traditional martial arts concentrate on one or the other).
Personally, I think the best base for a contemporary and practical tactical combatives system would be the Malaysian art of silat, the Philippine art of kali/eskrima, and the Israeli art of kapap.
With the exception of certain kali/eskrima and pencak silat schools, all three martial arts incorporate the full spectrum of hand-to-hand fighting: striking, grappling, and weapons techniques. All three are also short on "formal" technique but concentrate on developing muscle memory and reacting to real-world encounters (as opposed to countering specific moves that exist within the martial art). Although with the rising popularity of kali/eskrima (thanks to films like the
Bourne Identity
), there are now a lot of kali/eskrima schools of dubious repute ("McDojos") that focus on flashy techniques of questionable practical hand-to-hand combat value.
Their practicality has been borne out in the real world: Kapap formed the basis of Krav Maga (the combatives system used by the Israeli Defense Forces), kali/eskrima is one of the base systems that contributed to the development of the US Army's Modern Army Combatives Program curriculum (the others being Muay Thai, Kodokan judo, and boxing) and is also the base system from which are derived a lot of the control techniques taught in many police academies and police departments in the US and Canada (Bram Frank, former Chief Instructor for Advanced Instructors for the 2002 knife/counter-knife program at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center -- which trains FBI and CIA agents, among others -- is a recognized kali/eskrima/arnis expert).
This practicality is also why you don't see kali/eskrima, pencak silat, or kapap fighters in MMA competitions (and the ones that do claim to have trained in those systems actually use techniques from other systems in sporting competitions). Their focus has always been on limb destruction, the deprivation of the enemy's senses (eye-gouging, temporal and occipital strikes), and lethal strikes to vital areas such as the trachea, all of which are disallowed in just about any sporting competition. Again, the rising popularity of kali/eskrima has resulted in various
sayaw
(literally "dance," the equivalent of karate's
kata
) and full-contact "eskrima competitions" (particularly in Europe), but personally, I think the essence of kali/eskrima has to be diluted so much to fit into a sporting context that the result ends up having very little relation to the original combat system.
Now, I'm not saying that fighters with kali/eskrima, kapap, and pencak silat training would beat MMA fighters with Jiu-jitsu/jujutsu or Muay Thai training in a sporting scenario. They'd probably get beaten more often than not. But that's because those guys aren't trained to fight in sport situations and the disciplines they study aren't meant for use in sport situations which (rightly so) emphasize non-lethal techniques (or at least techniques that are non-immediate in lethality). It's like comparing, say, a police/tactical pursuit driver to a NASCAR/Formula One driver. The latter will almost always win in a controlled sport setting, but the former would ultimately be the one better equipped to handle pursuits in the real world.
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