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Myths about Hasbro and Collectors, taken from tfw2005.com
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09-24-2007, 02:41 PM
Shin Densetsu
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i cant believe im saying this but in a way im agreeing with flash. not on the exclusive thing but on hasbro not caring. why arent they plugging more merchandise out? why must i waste hrs of my time and gallons of my gas to go to the area stores to find nothing cause the sets brought in is sold out? im not sure if its scalpers to blame. i think part of this blame is on hasbro not making enough of this stuff. i have still yet to see wave 2 or a restock of wave one anywere. and ive checked out all the walmarts, targets, kmarts, toysrus from home to pleasonton and back numerous times (for the record thats like 7 stores total). i actually understand flashes frustration now on searching both online and in stores for not even an exclusive but just the basics to be leaving empty handed. yes ive gotten lucky and was at the right place at the right time once or twice but ive been unlucky (as of just missing a figure i wanted) numerous times more and it does get frustrating. and why wont hts.com have single packs? its extremily frustrating.
They aren't putting out a lot yet, because walmart and possibly the other stores did not start ordering heavily until august, for the fall season. Whatever was ordered in those months is either hitting now, or in the next few weeks in preparation for XMAS. DESTRO made a news topic about the walmart displays over summer and how a few select walmarts were going to get new product, while the others would wait till august. The new product included the anniversary joes, and the movie transformers. Recently he made a post about how some small walmarts will not stock the joes until january due to lack of space.
If the retailers demand it, Hasbro will make it. They only make enough toys when retailers order them. Thats how it works. Summer is typically a dead season for toys. This summer is an exception due to the Transformers movie, and we all know how the retailers all dropped the ball on that one because they thought the movie toys were going to shelfwarm like Spiderman3 and POTC, hence lack of orders.
With no cartoon currently on air, no movie in theaters yet, the main source of hype behind the anniversary joes are the anniversary and nostalgia. Us, the joe fans, all knew this line would be great, but did the retailers? Probably not. They have a wait and see approach, that typically leaves their stores shorthanded, and all of us frustrated waiting for toys to buy that never come.
Blame the retailers for underestimating demand, even in light of an anniversary. I did read that some stores weren't getting as many cases in and that them selling quick wasn't an indication of them selling well. However to me, its an indication of them not being ordered enough by the stores. Thats proof right there.
I'd like to say by next month we will be swimming in joe figures and Transformers. I hope I am right. I know how it feels going on fruitless toy runs, it sucks guys. I can' tell you how many times I've come out of the store empty handed in search of new joes and transformers. Don't get me started on how long it took to even find Mcboba.
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once back in the day, I actually got a job working in toys r Us so I can get stuff off the truck, Not to scalp,.. but to "anti-scalp" I took the star wars figures off, and hid them in the back of the storage shelf,.. so that when some scalping puke asked me were there any "specific figures" in the back, I sad no. but if a parent came in asking for figures for their children, I had tons of them.. I even bought a case of "sandtroopers" just so the kids in my afterschool program had figures they could play with during the christmas vacation (and so I had adversaries to crush them with with my Joes!)
You sound a lot like a guy that worked at one of the local TRU's a couple years back. He hated scalpers and was adamant about not going to the back to look for figures for them if he was asked by one.
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you know why hasbro didnt crank out a ton of these? they are a BRAND NEW LINE. what if it tanked? they would be out MILLIONS. they might have even scaled back on production of the first run because they caught wind of people saying stuff like "no O-ring?! OMFG MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED." or something to that effect.
i wish they DID crank out bazillions for the first run. but that would be stupid from a business standpoint. and that's what hasbro is, a business. sure, good business is great business when they make sure they provide what a customer wants, but in something as risky as figures, especially these days with scalpers and whatnot, its risky to launch a new line with huge ammounts of product.
Correct. The thing is, Hasbro probably does want to crank out a ton of these figures, but if the retailers don't order them, then its a huge financial loss to them. What happens afterwards? A discount or closeout retailer such as KB or Big Lots scoops up all those figures, and sells them at closeout prices. This even happens to figures that are a couple years old. Manimals anyone? The retailers are the ones hesitant in ordering the toys, its not Hasbro being hesitant on making them. The molds and toolings cost many more thousands of dollars than anyone even thinks, believe me, Hasbro would want all that money back by selling as many figures as they can. The only thing stopping them is lack of orders from retail. Why does Walmart lack space for joes? Well, they make enough room for the Corps! figures too, and they got more money from sales of individual Corps! figures, than individual joes.
I did read that walmart was ordering heavily for xmas in both joes and tfs, expect the big walmarts or the ones that get a lot of traffic in sales to have the joes this fall. Target in my experience, always has joes more than walmart does. As for TRU I am not sure, as their shelf space for the anniversary joes is very small. We will see once the displays are updated as xmas approaches. Remember guys, most toys ordered for the xmas season hit saturation next month. I just hope its easier for all of us to actually find something.
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