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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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09-19-2009, 11:33 PM
blackrazor1
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Loose Cannon
As always you are a wealth of knowledge Zulu, so let me ask you how you would rank the US military's Special Operations groups?
I'm not sure how to qualify or quantify their abilities though. Like the PJs and Civil Affairs guys. But I guess really in terms of teams that are set up as Direct Action teams. Who can kick the most ass?
Tanksmasher mentioned the 82nd's Recon team and I agree these guys most likely are as well trained as the Rangers. But they are not well known. I have to go read about the Joint Special Ops team you mentioned as well. I suppose the SAD guys may be highly trained as well and may function more like GIJoe at times than any conventional unit.
Still I know you won't be putting a Stryker Brigade at the top of your list.
There's never going to be a definative answer to that question unless SOCOM decides to have an in house battle royale. Part of the answer is training and experience. Remember, before the GWOT most special operators spent their entire careers without firing a shot in anger or participating in a real mission. In terms of training, Delta and DEVGRU are probably 1a and 1b with a slight edge to DEVGRU due to the fact the underwater insertations takes a greater toll on the body, but the still have to be in shape to finish the mission once they hit the target. Navy SEALs are probably next, now that they have their own HALO school they fully capable by the time they receive their Tridents after SQT. PJs and CCTs would be next. The get to ride the express lane through the spec ops specialty schools; because, they could be attached to anybody and they need to be able to keep. Special Forces kick ass by teaching the oppressed to kick ass for themselves, so that a 12 man A-Team becomes an army of angry well trained rebels. Marine Recon and Army LRSU/LRRPS are next. They have similar training. Rangers are at the bottom. List is in terms of the amount of training required to be a "full fledged" member of the unit. As for experience, up until very recently most big city SWAT officers had more "trigger time" than the guys at SOCOM. Anybody remember the reality
Combat Missions
with Rudy from
Survivor
? They had Navy SEALs on there, who said the didn't do CQB. The SWAT guys beat them quite a few times. A SWAT guy was the last man standing.
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